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the united nations general assembly voted by a 2/3 majority to recognize the state of palestine. secretary of the state hillary clinton called vote counter productive. >>> a s.w.a.t. team surrounded the home of joseph francis quarry. officers rushed cory when he had come outside of his house to take in his dogs. >>> today actress lindsay lohan faces new charges. the 26-year-old faces third degree charges. showing you here lohan leaving the police station hidden under a jacket. lohan was charged for three misdemeanors in an accident where her porsche crashed. >>> the marin independent journey says a park will be built right next to city hall and would require demolition of an old building. the building would include a statute of yoda. they also call for a statute of indiana jones. >>> one of two winners will share a record $188 million power ball lottery. a missouri lottery official says they have confirmed the winner with the announcement set for tomorrow. the gas station will claim $50,000 just for selling that ticket. >> and buying a power ballot ticket for yourself is about to
the united nations general assembly voted by a 2/3 majority to recognize the state of palestine. secretary of the state hillary clinton called vote counter productive. >>> a s.w.a.t. team surrounded the home of joseph francis quarry. officers rushed cory when he had come outside of his house to take in his dogs. >>> today actress lindsay lohan faces new charges. the 26-year-old faces third degree charges. showing you here lohan leaving the police station hidden under a jacket....
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we want to see palestine at the united nations and all the organs of the united nations but i stress the point of prime minister made in answer to his honorable friend this will only come about as the result of a successful negotiation with israel and if that is true and i haven't heard anybody art that is not true, if that is true, that everything we do should become consistent with promoting, facilitating and bringing to success such negotiations. that is our guiding principle and an overriding principle set against all the other factors understandably that people raised. >> lets say we on these benches would have preferred a vote without preconditions for any anticipation of a general assembly as a whole voting yes, can he tell us what representations he has made two governments by israel and the united states to discourage either of them from taking a punitive response to this peaceful diplomatic initiative? >> i am grateful to my honorable friend and you will be pleased the deputy prime minister has been so much involved in our efforts over the last few days. of course we have m
we want to see palestine at the united nations and all the organs of the united nations but i stress the point of prime minister made in answer to his honorable friend this will only come about as the result of a successful negotiation with israel and if that is true and i haven't heard anybody art that is not true, if that is true, that everything we do should become consistent with promoting, facilitating and bringing to success such negotiations. that is our guiding principle and an...
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nations on the east side, we are awaiting a crucial vote on palestinian statehood forget how close we are to it, take a wild guess who is going to pay big bucks to help establish it? i will give you a hint, it ain't the palestinians. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy? 5-hour energy supports the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. so i can get the energized feeling i need and support a great cause? i'm sold. pink lemonade 5-hour energy? yeah and a portion of every sale goes to the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. i'm sold. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy. get the alert, energized feeling you need and support breast cancer research and access to care. >>neil: the world could be on the verge of getting a new country, with the u.n. voting on a vote for palestine and my guest is here to talk about that. >>guest: we have so much trouble at home with economics and with money, why do we give money to foreigners who really are irrelevant to the interests of the united states strike me as singularly odd. the election is over. the politicians are back in washington. th
nations on the east side, we are awaiting a crucial vote on palestinian statehood forget how close we are to it, take a wild guess who is going to pay big bucks to help establish it? i will give you a hint, it ain't the palestinians. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy? 5-hour energy supports the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. so i can get the energized feeling i need and support a great cause? i'm sold. pink lemonade 5-hour energy? yeah and a portion of every sale goes to the...
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abstained, 41. >> the floor goes to the secretary-general of the united nations. >> mr. president, excellencies, ladies and gentleman, an important vote has taken place today in the general assembly. the decision [indiscernible] i stand ready to fulfill my role and report to this assembly, as requested in the resolution. my question has been consistent. the palestinians have a right to their own independent state. israel has the right to live in peace and security with its neighbors. there is no substitute for negotiations. today's vote underscores the urgency of meaningful negotiations. we must give due impetus to ensure an independent democratic state of palestine lives with a secure state of israel. i urge the parties to renew their commitment for negotiating peace. i count on all of you to act responsibly, preserve your treatment in state-building under the leadership of president abbas and the prime minister. thank you. [applause] >> i thank the secretary- general of the united nations for a statement. >> we are now proceeding to the explanations of the vote. i woul
abstained, 41. >> the floor goes to the secretary-general of the united nations. >> mr. president, excellencies, ladies and gentleman, an important vote has taken place today in the general assembly. the decision [indiscernible] i stand ready to fulfill my role and report to this assembly, as requested in the resolution. my question has been consistent. the palestinians have a right to their own independent state. israel has the right to live in peace and security with its...
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the united nations voted overwhelmingly this afternoon to recognize the palestinian territories as a state. something palestinians have as a sight. something palestinians have sought for generations, but a diplomatic setback for the u.s. and israel. th the territories on the west bank, the jordan river, and along the gaza strip are home to palestinians displaced by the war that created israel in 1948. today's vote doesn't create an independent palestine. that would have to come in negotiations with israel. jim axelrod is at the u.n. for us tonight. jim. >> reporter: well, scott, the palestinian authority become just the second non-member state designated by the united nations. the vatican is the other. the palestinians are viewing this elevation of status as an historic step, just to have any kind of recognition of statehood. palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas, who was also the first palestinian authority prime minister, rejected last- minute appeals from the united states to reconsider his push for this recognition. >> ( translated ): the united nations general assembly i
the united nations voted overwhelmingly this afternoon to recognize the palestinian territories as a state. something palestinians have as a sight. something palestinians have sought for generations, but a diplomatic setback for the u.s. and israel. th the territories on the west bank, the jordan river, and along the gaza strip are home to palestinians displaced by the war that created israel in 1948. today's vote doesn't create an independent palestine. that would have to come in negotiations...
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yesterday the united nations overwhelmingly voted to upgrade palestine's status to a non-member state and that could allow them to go after israel in criminal court which could delay or complicate peace talks in an effort towards forming two independent states of palestine and israel moving forward. u.n. ambassador susan rice called the vote a setback. the u.s. had threatened funding in the west bank in the hopes of preventing it. now rice says that the only way to truly form an independent palestinian state is through direct negotiations with israel. she says that is something the u.s. is committed to making happen. despite those comments, palestinians took to the streets yesterday in a step towards independence. now do both sides come to the table and start talking about peace. both israel and palestine has said that is something they want. reporting live in washington, back to you. >> all right, danielle. thanks so much. >>> well, secretary of state hillary clinton is weighing in on two major mid east situations, both with great u.s. interest involved. amid reports the obama admini
yesterday the united nations overwhelmingly voted to upgrade palestine's status to a non-member state and that could allow them to go after israel in criminal court which could delay or complicate peace talks in an effort towards forming two independent states of palestine and israel moving forward. u.n. ambassador susan rice called the vote a setback. the u.s. had threatened funding in the west bank in the hopes of preventing it. now rice says that the only way to truly form an independent...
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richard's our senior united nations correspondent. richard, i would imagine since abbas is speaking now, the vote has not taken place. >> the vote's not taken place. there will be some more speeches. this is the u.n. and then the vote will occur and widely expected the palestinians get this upgraded enhanced title at the u.n. bringing them closer to full statehood, the word state init, but they don't have all the rights of being a state. it's a bit of a step down to what the president abbas who continues to speak now what he wanted last year, but u.s. opposition stopped that in the security council. so it's a big day, don. >> you're right, richard. elise, why is the united states against palestine becoming a nonmember observer state? >> don, because they feel that it's really not going to get the palestinians what they want, which is an actual state. this is as richard has been saying a largely symbolic vote. it doesn't do anything for palestinian borders, for palestinian sovereignty. all of the things that the u.s. says needs to be d
richard's our senior united nations correspondent. richard, i would imagine since abbas is speaking now, the vote has not taken place. >> the vote's not taken place. there will be some more speeches. this is the u.n. and then the vote will occur and widely expected the palestinians get this upgraded enhanced title at the u.n. bringing them closer to full statehood, the word state init, but they don't have all the rights of being a state. it's a bit of a step down to what the president...
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. >> palestinians have been celebrating their recognition by the united nations general assembly. an overwhelming majority made palestine a non-member state. that is the same as the vatican. >> only a handful of countries voted against the move, including the u.s. and israel. both threaten to sanction palestinian request. israel today announced the construction of 3000 more settler homes in response. >> many hope it will be for step toward independence and true statehood. >> life remains the same in the palestinian territories, but many say the united nations vote has given them a new outlook. >> it is a beautiful feeling. there's hope that our children will grow up in an independent nation with its own voice, and that is a feeling that is hard to describe it. >> the decision came after a powerful appeal by the palestinian authority president in new york. >> the general assembly is called upon today to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the state of palestine. >> 138 generally assembly -- general assembly members voted in favor of upgrading palestine to the status of nonm
. >> palestinians have been celebrating their recognition by the united nations general assembly. an overwhelming majority made palestine a non-member state. that is the same as the vatican. >> only a handful of countries voted against the move, including the u.s. and israel. both threaten to sanction palestinian request. israel today announced the construction of 3000 more settler homes in response. >> many hope it will be for step toward independence and true statehood....
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nations susan rice the american ambassador to the united nations after slamming the vote again reiterated the american position that it will not change anything on the ground today grand pronouncements. and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership it does not this resolution does not establish that palestine is a state and yet talking to the average israeli on the street largely the response here is muted most israelis i've been talking to are actually biologic norine of this fundamental and historic occasion which is a far cry from the kind of reaction we witnessing on the streets in palestine. where european countries are among the most undecided in their attitude towards the palestinian drive for greater independence but there isn't evident shift in the continent's overall attitude to the bid compared to last year and palestinians who are seeking membership in the un's cultural agency unesco five countries switched from state to yes inclu
nations susan rice the american ambassador to the united nations after slamming the vote again reiterated the american position that it will not change anything on the ground today grand pronouncements. and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership it does not this resolution does not establish that palestine is a state and yet talking to the...
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plus, history as the united nations gets palestinians an upgrade and recognition as a palestinian state. it's a major change in status for the palestinian people. >> i think this is very important day for palestinians. >> shepard: but the united states and israel fiercely fought the shift. >> this is a provocative, unhealthy step that could undermine the peace process. >> it's a huge set back for the prospects of restarting peace talks with israel. >> shepard: tonight, what this means for the entire mideast. plus, two winning tickets for the record-setting power ball jackpot. >> the power ball jackpot winner in arizona will split the prize with the other winner in missouri. >> shepard: so who are those mystery winners? and executives at the twinkies manufacturer got big pay hikes last year even as the company was fighting to stay afloat. now with hostess brands heading down the tubes and how sands out of work. some of those execs are coming back for more. but first from fox this thursday night, this was the moment when history unfolded at the united nations. >> the voting has been compl
plus, history as the united nations gets palestinians an upgrade and recognition as a palestinian state. it's a major change in status for the palestinian people. >> i think this is very important day for palestinians. >> shepard: but the united states and israel fiercely fought the shift. >> this is a provocative, unhealthy step that could undermine the peace process. >> it's a huge set back for the prospects of restarting peace talks with israel. >> shepard:...
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the united nations has voted to recognize palestine has a stake. as you can see in ramallah, people are delighted. what does it mean for palestinians? >> it is a psychological boost for palestinians. it shows that the international community supports their aspirations for statehood. the real challenge will now be to translate this into a real effect on the ground. president abbas will return to ramallah after this vote. israel will still be in control of the majority of the west bank. hamas will be in control of gaza. and jerusalem is in israel's hands. >> but does it mean that they can join u.n. bodies, for example, the u.n. -- international criminal court. and many worry that they could go after is real progress this is what caused israel the most concern, that the palestinians can challenge them in the international fora, most notably the international criminal court. there is concern that soldiers all over the world will be subject to icc challenges. they see it as a not a step toward peace, but one of confrontation. >> france voted yes. german
the united nations has voted to recognize palestine has a stake. as you can see in ramallah, people are delighted. what does it mean for palestinians? >> it is a psychological boost for palestinians. it shows that the international community supports their aspirations for statehood. the real challenge will now be to translate this into a real effect on the ground. president abbas will return to ramallah after this vote. israel will still be in control of the majority of the west bank....
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it was repeated on five different national television shows by the ambassador of the united nations. i don't blame ambassador rice. i accept her version of what she did, but then she's kicked the ball back into the white house, and they had better tell us. i don't think the senate has any obligation to approve her until the white house has told them that. >> greta: i don't like all the discussion behind closed doors. i don't believe that everything asked of her, or anyone else in connection with this investigation, is classified. i think that's a horrible disease in this city, if you don't tell something, overclassify it, so the rest of us can't find out. we have to do it through leaks. >> if she's nominated, you'll see open hearings, a great deal of material put on the record, because it's too sensitive a case for them to try to hide it. by the way, congressman frank did tell me, he's introducing a proposal for a watergate-type committee to look into in much more detail. >> greta: i just want the facts. then we can all move on. it's been hard getting the facts. mr. speaker, thank yo
it was repeated on five different national television shows by the ambassador of the united nations. i don't blame ambassador rice. i accept her version of what she did, but then she's kicked the ball back into the white house, and they had better tell us. i don't think the senate has any obligation to approve her until the white house has told them that. >> greta: i don't like all the discussion behind closed doors. i don't believe that everything asked of her, or anyone else in...
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well windies radio best suited to the united nations one pose a. his address to the united nations general assembly he was essentially with the same team what has been and continues to be the israeli point of view he said that the palestinian leadership made a mistake in making this but in the first place he said that the resolution was one sided and it did not in any way it grace the security concerns and that the state of israel has now we have heard already cold calls for sanctions we certainly have heard earlier this week from being israeli foreign minister avigdor lieberman who says that he needs to be an extreme reaction to the palestinians if indeed they go ahead with this food so it means in the recent days and in the recent now was there has been toned down israeli reaction so if we as they sensed that the bug was going to go the direction of the palestinians we know also that the israelis have been scared of making any kind of statements that could be used against him in the future but at the moment in his role the reaction was muted it w
well windies radio best suited to the united nations one pose a. his address to the united nations general assembly he was essentially with the same team what has been and continues to be the israeli point of view he said that the palestinian leadership made a mistake in making this but in the first place he said that the resolution was one sided and it did not in any way it grace the security concerns and that the state of israel has now we have heard already cold calls for sanctions we...
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towards that and i don't see the palestinian do it through the united nations not through the international court in a normal not through drive our men revive the road. to jerusalem police replied norman. our. i do think that romney has complete lucidity of mind he's clearly not suffering from outside but i'm not sure why he's saying the problem is the palestinians won't negotiate surely he's who were there in the latest phase in the goshi asians they began in one nine hundred ninety three which is to say hello in september and that's now nearly twenty years later and of anyone reads through the record of those negotiations and i haven't read all the transcript the let me say one instructor in conclusion let me strike me inclusion that you are meant finishing i will be going in july and let me run initial go ahead rami really happy to let me finish if you read through the if you read through the twenty year record the one conclusion you reach the outstanding conclusion is nothing happened it's like the children's song the wheels on the bus go round and round and the reason nothing happened
towards that and i don't see the palestinian do it through the united nations not through the international court in a normal not through drive our men revive the road. to jerusalem police replied norman. our. i do think that romney has complete lucidity of mind he's clearly not suffering from outside but i'm not sure why he's saying the problem is the palestinians won't negotiate surely he's who were there in the latest phase in the goshi asians they began in one nine hundred ninety three...
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the president's lunch with mitt romney, the united nations note on palestine. all this as joe biden was christmas shopping. >>> and some amazing random acts of kindness. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and today the first of the two grand prize powerball winners will come forward to reveal themselves and have their lives change forever. and there's also buzz about a potential code within the winning numbers. nbc's kerry sanders has that story. >> reporter: in tiny dearborn, missouri, where just about everyone knows everyone, the question is was it one of their own who bought a winning powerball ticket? >> it's exciting, very exciting. we never, ever thought that we would sell the winning ticket, and here it is. we did. >> reporter: folks in this farming community just off interstate 70 are now trying to figure out if the winning numbers were chosen with meaning. dearborn is but 35 miles north of kansas city, home of the royals baseball team. those winning lottery numbers? they match royals' hall of famers, brett, gubiza, jackson, leonard, quizenbury. th
the president's lunch with mitt romney, the united nations note on palestine. all this as joe biden was christmas shopping. >>> and some amazing random acts of kindness. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and today the first of the two grand prize powerball winners will come forward to reveal themselves and have their lives change forever. and there's also buzz about a potential code within the winning numbers. nbc's kerry sanders has that story. >> reporter: in tiny...
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well when the israeli ambassador to the united nations one poser put forward his address to the united nations general assembly he was essentially with those entering what has been and continues to be the israeli point of view he said that the palestinian leadership made a mistake in making this but in the first place he said that the resolution was one sided and then it did not in any way address the security concerns that the state of israel has he also said that it would push the peace process forward further backwards rather than move it forward and this is a view that we've heard repeatedly from the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu he says that the only way forward for a two state solution is direct negotiations at the negotiating table between israelis and palestinians and cannot in any decoration of the state are first having these negotiations going toward a long lasting peace now we have heard already cold calls for sanctions we certainly have heard earlier this week from the israeli foreign minister avigdor lieberman who says that he needs to be an extreme reaction t
well when the israeli ambassador to the united nations one poser put forward his address to the united nations general assembly he was essentially with those entering what has been and continues to be the israeli point of view he said that the palestinian leadership made a mistake in making this but in the first place he said that the resolution was one sided and then it did not in any way address the security concerns that the state of israel has he also said that it would push the peace...
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because they went to the united nations. they went unilaterally to the united nations. this was a unilateral action. we pulled out from the gaza unilaterally, we didn't ask their permission, we just did it. >> rose: some people argue that what ought to has been, i think barak has argued this and others that if you can't find somebody to bargain with, go ahead and create two states. >> well, barak was repeating what i proposed. six and a half years ago you will recall i'm sure that i said i will negotiate with the palestinians. if i reach an agreement with them, better. if i don't reach an agreement with them i would have then implemented a solution on the unilateral basis and i called it the convergence plan. this was the plan that i discussed first time that i came to america as a prime minister and i met with president george bush. he was very curious about this plan and i said don't worry, i don't propose it because i want to avoid negotiations. i will doctor go for negotiations in the most serious manner in order to achieve peace and he was very helpful together wit
because they went to the united nations. they went unilaterally to the united nations. this was a unilateral action. we pulled out from the gaza unilaterally, we didn't ask their permission, we just did it. >> rose: some people argue that what ought to has been, i think barak has argued this and others that if you can't find somebody to bargain with, go ahead and create two states. >> well, barak was repeating what i proposed. six and a half years ago you will recall i'm sure that i...
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the israelis found themselves in a minority of mind, as well as the united states and canada, nations that do matter. they were left with the likes of micronesia supporting them. i think the real danger for the israelis in this settlement move now is that they alienate the few friends they do have left and find themselves further isolated. >> those numbers, 138 voted for, only 9 against. 41 abstentions. so you make that point very well for us. all right, john ray, thank you so much. >>> well back here in the states, a dramatic weather story to report. a rain-soaked northwest is preparing for the third of four consecutive storms. the most intense rainfall begins tonight, and heavy snow is falling in the mountains. nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer is here with the national forecast. good morning. >> good morning, alex. yes, the rain out west has been very intense. we've already picked up about five to ten inches of rainfall in portions of california, and oregon. up into southwestern washington state, as well. we are going to see more rain today, but a stronger storm is going to move in fo
the israelis found themselves in a minority of mind, as well as the united states and canada, nations that do matter. they were left with the likes of micronesia supporting them. i think the real danger for the israelis in this settlement move now is that they alienate the few friends they do have left and find themselves further isolated. >> those numbers, 138 voted for, only 9 against. 41 abstentions. so you make that point very well for us. all right, john ray, thank you so much....
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so, israel said you do to the united nations what we do here on the disputed land. it's a major, it's a major blow for the palestinians because 3,000 homes in an area which is about 4.5 square miles near jerusalem, effective lly splits that part of the west bank into two. for the palestinians, it's a bad move and now, of course, they're accusing israel of bad faith. >> martin fletcher, our man in tel aviv, thank you, sir, appreciate your reporting, as always. >>> for more perspective, let's bring in msnbc contributor and also a journalist and filmmaker, as well. born in israel and grew up in arab east jerusalem, as well. we should note, good saturday to you. >> thank you. >> white house friday critical of the netanyahu government plan to add those new homes to settlements. white house statement in part that the plan was counterproductive. secretary of state hillary clinton also spoke yesterday. i want to play this sound and then talk about it on the other side. take a listen. >> let me reiterate that this administration, like previous administrations, has been very
so, israel said you do to the united nations what we do here on the disputed land. it's a major, it's a major blow for the palestinians because 3,000 homes in an area which is about 4.5 square miles near jerusalem, effective lly splits that part of the west bank into two. for the palestinians, it's a bad move and now, of course, they're accusing israel of bad faith. >> martin fletcher, our man in tel aviv, thank you, sir, appreciate your reporting, as always. >>> for more...
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nations general assembly that just passed today grand pronouncements will soon see. and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed but washington's unflinching support for tel aviv has separated from some of its longtime allies in the un more and more countries are turning their back on decades of negotiations that have led nowhere what has changed has been the continual failure of the us controlled so-called peace process to lead to any kind of end to occupation and what i think was the catalyst here is that political pressure on other matters and on the palestinian authority from their own population from their own people who were saying you know what we've had twenty one years of failed diplomacy we're not looking for twenty two we want something different and that something means a real shift in policy first and foremost the consensus on the international stage is that israel needs to stop building settlements deemed illegal by the un and certainly be international community you know is a horse. a provocation w
nations general assembly that just passed today grand pronouncements will soon see. and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed but washington's unflinching support for tel aviv has separated from some of its longtime allies in the un more and more countries are turning their back on decades of negotiations that have led nowhere what has changed has been the continual failure of the us controlled so-called peace process to lead to any kind...
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nations and the u.s. has publicly threatened to cut off financing to international organizations that admit palestine as a member we should remind our viewers that back in two thousand and eleven the u.s. congress cut financing to unesco after it except that palestine was a member there's also a chance that another consequence could be that the u.s. . it's off its funding to the palestinian authority palestine has long sought to establish an independent sovereign state in the west bank which would include eastern roussillon in the gaza strip which is occupied by israel during the one nine hundred sixty seven sixty a war now in one nine hundred ninety three the oslo accord between palestine and israel led to a mutual recognition of a two state solution nearly two decades later a permanent peace settlement hasn't been produced with the latest round of negotiations for making down back in two thousand and ten. of the new york we'll talk more no vote on how the situation the middle east is likely to pan out i
nations and the u.s. has publicly threatened to cut off financing to international organizations that admit palestine as a member we should remind our viewers that back in two thousand and eleven the u.s. congress cut financing to unesco after it except that palestine was a member there's also a chance that another consequence could be that the u.s. . it's off its funding to the palestinian authority palestine has long sought to establish an independent sovereign state in the west bank which...
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nations now we're also hearing criticism of some european ambassadors european diplomats warning us that we were going to be certain moves against israel now we're also hearing from the un secretary-general ban ki moon to quote him he says that this has developed and in most fatal blow to the remaining chances of securing a two state solution amongst the punishment that the israeli government has taken is that they have frozen some one hundred million dollars in tax money that is welcome it's on behalf of the palestinian authority has built a painful blow to the p.a. because essentially can only cover around seventeen percent of its needs the rest of the money comes from this tax money comes from the united states and from the european union if you look at the sick the population in this country they too also unhappy they do not believe that the israeli prime minister netanyahu will go ahead with building these units they believe that it's almost a cheap moves by netanyahu to try and gain support ahead of genuine elections and that this is an internal matter to try and really build
nations now we're also hearing criticism of some european ambassadors european diplomats warning us that we were going to be certain moves against israel now we're also hearing from the un secretary-general ban ki moon to quote him he says that this has developed and in most fatal blow to the remaining chances of securing a two state solution amongst the punishment that the israeli government has taken is that they have frozen some one hundred million dollars in tax money that is welcome it's...
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we want to see palestine and the united nations and all the organs of the united nations. i stress the point in answer to his honorable friend come and this only come about as a result of the successful negotiation with israel. if that is true and i haven't heard anybody argue that it's not true, if that is true, everything we do should be consistent with promoting with facilitating brain to success negotiations. that is the guiding principle in overriding principle against all the other fact there is an people raise. >> the foreign secretary for bringing to a yes vote in aspirations than any previous british government has come to say we on these would have preferred a british eso with no preconditions. in anticipation of the general assembly as a whole voting yes, can he tell the soap representation seasoning and indeed of the united states to discourage either of them from taking a punitive response to this peaceful diplomatic initiative? >> well, i'm grateful to my honorable friend the bjp prime minister has been so much involved in our efforts over the last few days a
we want to see palestine and the united nations and all the organs of the united nations. i stress the point in answer to his honorable friend come and this only come about as a result of the successful negotiation with israel. if that is true and i haven't heard anybody argue that it's not true, if that is true, everything we do should be consistent with promoting with facilitating brain to success negotiations. that is the guiding principle in overriding principle against all the other fact...
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>>guest: they will have special status in the united nations like the vatican has. but it has, there is no question --. >>shepard: the vatican and the palestinians? >>guest: it shows the international community pushing for a seven -- a sovereign state. what the united states wants is that to be a negotiating chit with recognition of a sovereign state if the following circumstances prevail. they don't want to lose that bargaining chip. >>shepard: the come is any minute. but it is done. i wondered about great britain which has indicated they could vote for this. that would be a change in course for politics there. >>guest: there has been an an -- affinity for some time in great britain. the french, too, have signaled they are likely to support that. it and a change. but it is a decremental change and the international community coalesced behind this. >>shepard: we will watch it. now the fight over the fiscal cliff at home. potential economic disaster that has come down to who blinks first, really. leaders in both policemen parties today accuse the other of not taking
>>guest: they will have special status in the united nations like the vatican has. but it has, there is no question --. >>shepard: the vatican and the palestinians? >>guest: it shows the international community pushing for a seven -- a sovereign state. what the united states wants is that to be a negotiating chit with recognition of a sovereign state if the following circumstances prevail. they don't want to lose that bargaining chip. >>shepard: the come is any minute....
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nations without israel as a partner as if saying that the impediment is just the state that's here let's do this hand in hand without negotiations without us as a partner to do a one sided to impose it on israel and they feel the strong need to give a response as an israeli i can say that has to do with domestic politics personally i don't necessarily adhere to that stop i think you've heard a lot of criticism here in israel in linking it in such a way but that is also about politics but of course israel maybe not helping the matter it could be said on top of the the settlements israel's also announced it's not going to hold over a hundred million dollars of aid to the palestinians to pay debts to israeli companies is that really an option when of course you've got the world's largest refugee populations on your doorstep well that refugee population is something that needs to be taken care of and any case but i'm looking at these as part of the last four years the decision that was made on thursday from my point of view was an israeli was anti israel not just pro palestinian i want to se
nations without israel as a partner as if saying that the impediment is just the state that's here let's do this hand in hand without negotiations without us as a partner to do a one sided to impose it on israel and they feel the strong need to give a response as an israeli i can say that has to do with domestic politics personally i don't necessarily adhere to that stop i think you've heard a lot of criticism here in israel in linking it in such a way but that is also about politics but of...
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of the united. palestine could have broken the log jam at the security council and turned it over to the general assembly for a two thirds vote in any event i believe they concluded that that would have been a step too far given the diplomatic and political situation so last spring the p.l.o. executive committee that serves as the provisional government for the state of palestine voted to go for un observer state membership along the lines that switzerland used to have i guess until about ten years one finally joined the united nations organization but from the very founding you wait until about ten years ago switzerland was a u.n. observer state and in that capacity was able to join all of the. international organizations treaties including the statue to the international court of justice for let's talk about some of the leverage that palestine now has from the status francis what new status doesn't give an international court you kind of just just touch upon one legal recourses does palestine have
of the united. palestine could have broken the log jam at the security council and turned it over to the general assembly for a two thirds vote in any event i believe they concluded that that would have been a step too far given the diplomatic and political situation so last spring the p.l.o. executive committee that serves as the provisional government for the state of palestine voted to go for un observer state membership along the lines that switzerland used to have i guess until about ten...
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nations that the moral majority of western states was with israel it now turns out he was wrong and whether israel wants it or not it's increasingly clear that something needs to give pause here r.t. tel aviv no but earlier israeli college lecturer of miri eisin spoke to me she said that thursday's move was directed against israel. the majority of israelis including this government by the way have stated clearly that they'd like to see palestine independent and both of us understand that there is a difference between saying palestine independent and doing it on your own with the united nations without israel as a partner as if saying that the impediment is just the state that's here let's do this hand in hand without negotiations without us as a partner to do a one sided to impose it on israel and they feel the strong need to give a response as an israeli i can say that has to do with domestic politics personally i don't necessarily adhere to that step i think you've heard a lot of criticism here in israel in linking it in such a way that is also about politics but of course israel
nations that the moral majority of western states was with israel it now turns out he was wrong and whether israel wants it or not it's increasingly clear that something needs to give pause here r.t. tel aviv no but earlier israeli college lecturer of miri eisin spoke to me she said that thursday's move was directed against israel. the majority of israelis including this government by the way have stated clearly that they'd like to see palestine independent and both of us understand that there...
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actions will still not make palestine a nation. >> the united nations general assembly is here to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the state of palestine. >> reporter: for palestinians watching the vote on the giant screen, it was a huge victory. in ramallah, nbc's martin fletcher. >> reporter: this is a great personal triumph, but what the people here most want is real change on the ground, and that won't happen without direct face to face negotiations with israel. >> reporter: israel, having just gone through eight days of conflict with gaza, strongly objected, arguing that palestinians must first recognize their right to exist. before gaining new rights at the u.n. >> the world awaits for president abbas to speak the truth about peace, that can only be achieved through negotiations, by recognizing israel as a jewish state >> reporter: palestinians hope today's vote will strengthen their hands in future peace talks. but the u.s. argued that it could set them back. >> today's unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstacles in the path to peace. >> repor
actions will still not make palestine a nation. >> the united nations general assembly is here to issue a birth certificate of the reality of the state of palestine. >> reporter: for palestinians watching the vote on the giant screen, it was a huge victory. in ramallah, nbc's martin fletcher. >> reporter: this is a great personal triumph, but what the people here most want is real change on the ground, and that won't happen without direct face to face negotiations with israel....
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vote very seriously and now they're suffering the second is staggering the feat at the united nations so i think we can be optimistic we might be entering the end game but the end game will take time to get him please reply. yes give me a couple more of these a staggering defeat so virtual victories like the one we suffered in gaza and the problem are the resistance of the palestinians will be laid to rest they will have to look for other ways to fight israel so come on let's let's look at the facts that look what happened on the ground not the virtual victory like the one they're celebrating in a hollow or in gaza today the real issue is not to side i'm not trying to win points i'm trying if you want to advance the palestinian issue come and talk to us we are ready to deal we are ready to get you give you a better deal than anything you can ask him to give you or the radiance can give you or the rest of the arab world which is torn by the arab spring right now that's the real issue where the palestinian want a palestinian state not three one virtual stated the u.n. one hamas state in
vote very seriously and now they're suffering the second is staggering the feat at the united nations so i think we can be optimistic we might be entering the end game but the end game will take time to get him please reply. yes give me a couple more of these a staggering defeat so virtual victories like the one we suffered in gaza and the problem are the resistance of the palestinians will be laid to rest they will have to look for other ways to fight israel so come on let's let's look at the...